"Kings of Lowsec"

*picks alliance that doesn't live in lowsec*

So us killing all those slaved pods don't count? It wasn't "real pvp" because it was CCP?

Congratulations to PL by the way.

You are officially the second best alliance in Lowsec.

9 PM on the sixth of May is between downtime on the fifth of May and downtime on the sixth of May?

TIL.

From downtime on May 5th to downtime on May 6th

hey I have a bit of a meta question

how come PL has never progressed past the "I dont really know what to say so Im going to call you mad/bitter/butthurt" level of internet posting

Id be embarrassed personally

I invented Low-Sec

Show some numbers with CCP included. Your rules never stated they were excluded, it is only fair we get to see who truly won the event, even if it means no flag is raised for us.

As a new player, I have no investment in this competition of yours, I just happened to read this thread. But I have to say that you, Pandemic Legion, come off like total asshats in this thread.

The immaturity and gloating is just revolting. Grow up.

(That said, I do love all the awesome fights you have posted, or participated in, on YouTube. Much respect. The skill is great.)

Got to give it to PL for planning it the way they did, and it was dumb of CCP to put the kill event on the same day as the 1000s of rifters event. Once you're set up and traffic control kicks in, you have a one way meat grinder to farm up kills. As we said, we tried to get into that system but it was already in full traffic control mode. Who gets the credit in PL to come up with the idea once CCP put it on the same day? Doesn't seem ad-hoc at all in hindsight.

Edit: and for people who still don't get it, they were repping the Nyx not to pee in your soup/event, but to rack up kills for the CCP event, there's nothing like 'NYX TO KILL IN X' to get the scrubs flooding to the gates with their ships and keep the system in TD. Very good PEEVEEPEE there. @Eterne, wtf gave you the inclination to put it on the same day anyway

I think the way PL won "King of Lowsec" is questionable. At the very least the competition was flawed from the start. The title "King of Lowsec" implies that the winner is a ruling entity or at least in some way majestic in these particular regions of space. And this year's winner most assuredly is none of those.

To put the competition on the same day as the Nyx vs frigates event further devalues the title. And just when I thought the title couldn't be defiled any more, CCP goes ahead and creates massive controversy by changing the competition rules after the fact - or at the very least they neglected to include vital information in the rules before competition started.

And to top it off, the way Pandemic Legion conduct themselves in this thread is just atrocious. The pubescent shitpost from PL's "diplomat" (I don't think that word means what you think it means) just pushed everything over the top.

"King of Lowsec" is meaningless and I think CCP would benefit from staging competitions and titles that actually had some value the community at large.

I did not win, and PL did win. This angers me. CCP are dirty cheaters.

I am afraid you are mistaken and I fear that you are entirely neglecting my post's content. I also do not appreciate the sarcasm and the total lack of contribution to the discussion. I absolutely did not have any investment in the "King of Lowsec" competition. In fact, I did not even know about it till it was over.

I am merely commenting on what I perceive as grave inadequacies of the mechanics of the competition.

I also commented on what, in my mind, is horrible forum behaviour from some of Pandemic Legion's members. The latter is slightly off topic but it still manages to tie in to how the community sees the competition as a whole.

What your dripping response does, however, is very accurately illustrate the challenges other players have in voicing their concerns in this thread.

Others have made valid points - including me - but somehow you manage only to take from it that we are sore losers. In my case I did not even partake in the competition and I have little knowledge of either Pandemic Legion or Urine Something-Something. You are very much distiling the subejct of my critisism in your post, but I would hope that you merely misinterpreted what I said.

There is just so much animosity and misdirected anger in your post, so I am just going to let this lie. I do not think the type of discussion you engage in is particularly constructive and wish you the best in game. Fly safe.

As for anomaly, not really, every major group in lowsec flies with 3billion isk worth of implants in their heads,
usually slaves. We kill scores of people with such on a daily bases.

Hmm good question, I suppose the other 10billion+ of kills we got that day, were all t1-no-guns-faction-warfare-farming-frigates.

Our tackle t3's are set up for instalocking pods.. "pirates" remember...

You can't refute me so you have to go all ad hominem on me :( I thought you were smarter you texas man!

allianceName number of Kills isk value
Urine Alliance 55 0

Whining has got a lot of things put into eve (or not)! On the matter of CCP making any further comments here, or heaven forbid make ANOTHER 180, I don't think they will nor do I really hope so. In my eyes they made a call for all-too-human reasons, and it can be argued that it was a bad call for many reasons (hand it to a POS-fight equiv/changing pretty clear ruleset, etc) but can also be argued the other way. Their own behaviour indicated they had all intentions to put 'CCP spawned items' in the middle of this event, which means they did mean to count it. Otherwise you'd expect a 'Hey guys CCP fleets will be roaming during this event but please be aware their kill values do not count to this event'.

The only thing the CCP guys can say is 'we made a call' so what more do we expect? Nothing really, but it won't stop us pointing out the glaring holes in said call. As above, let's hope they make it clearer next time, unlike the million times now they've failed on communications.

You guys should try a bit harder in SCL. (you know the SCL that Fozzie always whiteknights)

I don't really understand the point of this post, so I'll use my reply to pose a question:

Do you think CCP should have stated kills against them won't count in the OP? (Especially since the wording of the OP said that "all kills regardless of circumstance" would count)

Is everyone in PL incapable of answering a simple question?

Are you really claiming your question (which was essentially "Did the CCP ships explode when you killed them?") wasn't rhetorical?

I notice you're still dodging.

Right, see most people when they say "fireworks" would mean y'know, explosions.

So do you want to answer the question now?

The rest of your post had no content worth replying to. If you really want me to reply to your "lol i think ur stupid and im going to use big words incorrectly to try to prove it!" then here's my reply:
Nah.


Now answer the question.

BIG WORDS WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

That's because it's a rhetorical question with no value. You're not asking an opinion, like I am. You're asking me to verify something you can check yourself on whichever killboard you like best.

It's amusing to me how quickly a tryhard develops a personality like they're worth sh*t when they join PL.
It's also most of the reason I left PL.

I don't really understand the point of this post, so I'll use my reply to pose a question:

Do you think CCP should have stated kills against them won't count in the OP? (Especially since the wording of the OP said that "all kills regardless of circumstance" would count)

you know what they say, first the worst second the best

As you refuse to answer the question and continue to be baffled at the words "rules in the OP", I'll have to assume that you're fat and autistic. It's quite a shame that some people are born with autism, but there are places that can help you. I would suggest you google for your local autism awareness center, where you can be among your own kind.

Coming from a guy hung up on word definitions, this is pretty funny.

And yeah I did assume "all kills regardless of circumstance" meant "all kills regardless of circumstance".

nah we won though

it's about time you PL losers recognized who the real champ is
the champ
is
here

lol reddit nerd

then how come you lost to us m8???

>all kills regardless of circumstance count
>goes by value on kill report
>we got like 30b more than you did

nah we won

lol you think my posting takes effort?

Hey guys, we're posting with you for 40 pages, but you're the tryhards.

man its sad that ive explained it so many times and you still dont understand that we won

im sad for you

Ok everyone, after much nose blowing and coughing and going "Our kill reports say a Nyx is only worth HOW much?" we have finally tallied the results and have the winners of the King of Low Sec competition.

And, after making the final tally, we congratulate Pandemic Legion for destroying more player ISK in low sec than any other alliance, corporation, or other entity in New Eden. We heard they even staged an op into Amamake during the day, which surely led to a lot of explosions and ISK value being destryoed.

Congratulations to Pandemic Legion for their victory. We will be posting further details of when their flag will fly over CCP HQ in the near future.

no its okay they just made a minor mistake

if you look at the value of kill reports we clearly won

so basically stop deluding yourself u got owned

Ok everyone, after much nose blowing and coughing and going "Our kill reports say a Nyx is only worth HOW much?" we have finally tallied the results and have the winners of the King of Low Sec competition.

And, after making the final tally, we congratulate Pandemic Legion for destroying more player ISK in low sec than any other alliance, corporation, or other entity in New Eden. We heard they even staged an op into Amamake during the day, which surely led to a lot of explosions and ISK value being destryoed.

Congratulations to Pandemic Legion for their victory. We will be posting further details of when their flag will fly over CCP HQ in the near future.

like i said, its sad that you cant read

im still cry for you every night

And BOB won a lot of T2 BPO lotteries. *tinfoil*

Favours are Favours, and having and an old member working at CCP is what it is.
If previous affiliations don't rise suspicions, people wouldn't ask for API keys ingame ^^

There is also a cirtain nyx kill with all related kills during that event that could be argued should be removed from the totals, since the nyx was moved into system using devhax.